COUSINS
A newsletter pertaining to the descendants of Robert Pepin and Marie Crete

October 2001 -- Vol 2, No. 10


In this month's COUSINS:
  • What's New: New McClure info
  • This month's Feature:  Marie-Jeanne PEPIN and her husband,Louis-Joseph ROY
  • John MCCLURE
  • Ramblings from the Editor
  • NewsLetter info

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WHAT'S NEW

I've heard from just about everybody -- but more on that in a bit.

One of the things I did to give my brains a break from the news was to put all the back issues of COUSINS on the web site.  You have two options to access them: (1) go to http://www.fortlangley.ca/pepin/cousins.html (2) Click on *any* red lion -- which can be found at either of the two above URLs and on the Site Directory.  It's pretty basic, mostly because cousin Marcel mentioned that he had an idea for a layout and will no doubt be using that once he's had a chance to finish it up.

The nice thing about this is that if there is a problem with the formatting of the newsletter in the e-mail version, the web version is there AND I can add in things that some of you wouldn't be able to view in email that you will be able to see on the web page.

I've also gotten to a point in the monster data base where I will be putting up a set of pages showing the descendants of Jean Pepin and Jeanne Dumont.  When . . .?  As soon as I go through it and edit some of the notes I made and make certain I've got all the source notes in order. Other pages will follow, with Guillaume Pepin and Antoine Pepin probably being the next two.  Though the data base now stands at 10,419 individuals, by adding in Guillaume's and Antoine's Pepin lines, I still have at least a couple more months to go before I can put up the whole thing.

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THIS MONTH'S FEATURE:

Marie-Jeanne PEPIN and her husband, Louis-Joseph ROY.

Remember, before taking this info as gospel, do check it out in the Red and Blue Drouin, as well as the René Jetté, most especially the info on the older families.  And if anyone has the titles of other good reference works, please feel free to pass them along.

Last month we looked at Charles (2Jean, 1 Robert), and his wife Marie-Louise MERCEREAU.

This month we look at Charles' younger sister Marie-Jeanne (2Jean, 1Robert), her husband Louis-Joseph ROY, and their 11 kids.   Marie-Jeanne (2Jean, 1Robert) was baptized 13 June 1707 in Charlesbourg.   Her husband is Louis-Joseph ROY, son of Jean ROY dit AUDY and Thérèse JOBIN, was baptised 19 10 1698.  Marie-Jean is Louis-Joseph's third wife.

--The other wives and children of Louis-Joseph ROY...

1st: Marguerite Lefrançoise, daughter of Alexis-Nicolas Lefrançois and Madeleine Lefebvre, baptised 12 January 1682; married 21 October 1726 at Château-Richer; 3 children

...2nd: Marie-Elisabeth PICHET, daughter of Jacques Pichet and Louise Asselin, baptised 1708; buried 9 August 1734; married 21 April 1732; 1 daughter.

Marie-Jeanne PEPIN and Louis-Joseph ROY married 18 July 1735, and their 11 children are:

1.  Marie-Louise ROY dit Audy, baptised 10 July 1737; married Ignace CARON 3 July 1770.

--Extra info on Ignace CARON

...Marie-Jeanne was Ignace's second wife.

...His first wife was Marie-Joseph GIGUÈRE; they married in about 1755 and had 6 children.

...Ignace *may* have been the son of Igance Caron and Marguerite Rousseau (married 5 July 1734 at Islet), but I can't be certain.  Ignace and Marguerite are shown with a son named Igance who was baptised 18 Nov 1736, but as the marriage listing for Ignace and Marie-Joseph does not show parents for Ignace, and as the marriage listing for Ignace and Marguerite doesn't show their son Ignace with a wife, I just don't know . . . but since the 18 Nov 1736 Ignace would have at least been of an age to be the husband of Marie-Joseph GIGUÈRE and Marie-Jeanne ROY, I felt it was worth mentioning.   (The answer to this can be found all the way down at the bottom of this page -- thank you Libby!)

2.  Marie-Jeanne ROY, baptised 7 June 1736

3.  Joseph-Charles ROY, baptised 3 Nov 1738; married Marie-Joseph FILION in 1766; 2 children.

--Extra info on Marie-Joseph FILION

...Tome 2, p 77, shows Marie-Joseph's father to be III--Jean FILION, however, this Jean is not shown with a daughter named Marie-Joseph, nor do any of his daughters marry a Joseph-Charles ROY, ROY-AUDY, or ROY dit AUDY

...Tome 4, p 26 has her listed as though she came over by herself and married a fellow already in Canada, like maybe she was a Filles du Roy (King's Daughter)

4.  Louis ROY, baptised 23 1740

5.  Marguerite ROY, baptised 4 March 1741

6.  Pierre ROY, baptised 15 October 1742; buried 2 January 1749

7.  Charles-Joseph ROY, baptised 13 April 1744

8.  Madeleine ROY, baptised 25 March 1746

9.  Jean-François ROY, baptised 23 August 1747; buried 21 September 1747

10.  Jean-Simon ROY, baptised 27 OCtober 1748

11.  Pierre ROY, baptised 3 July 1751

If you see something that doesn't quite agree with your personal family history, e-mail me and tell me about it.

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JOHN McCLURE

This month's offering is "L'Interessante HIstorie de John McCluer".  I'll start with the French version and follow up with the Bablefish translation.  (If you don't know what Bablefish is, it's a website that lets you translate documents from a half dozen or so languages into English as well as translating stuff into a half dozen other languages from English.  The URL is http://babelfish.altavista.com/

McCLUER

1754

L'Interessante Historie de John McCluer

John McCluer et son épouse, Janat Finn étaient originaires de Forestdale, Massachusetts.  Forgeron et armurier de son métier, il semble que votre ancêtre et son épouse allèrent en Acadie pour travailler à Canso au service de la garnison anglaise.  Celle-ci fut faite prisonnière par Duvilliers au printemps de 1744 et amenée à Québec.  Irlandais et Ecossais, surtout lorsqu' ils étaient catholiques, étaient traités avec une très grande bienveillance par les autorités françaises qui les remettaient en liberté.   John McCluer, une fois rendu à Québec, travailla pour Georges Trévoux, armurier du roi.  En 1752, John McCluer se bâtit une maison au faubourg Saint-Roch.   En 1748, son épouse, Janet Finn avait abjuré le protestantisme en présence d'André-Joseph-Mathurin Jacquereau, ancien directeur du Séminaire.  Sous le régime français lorsque des gens de langue anglais devaient rendre témoignage, l'une des fils de John McCluer, Thomas, servít souvent d'interprète devant les tribunaux.

John McClure's signature

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1754

The interesting history of John McCluer

John McCluer and his spouse, Janet Finn, were natives of Forestdale, Massachusetts.  Blacksmith and arms-maker by trade, it seems that our ancestor and his wife went "en Acadie" to work in Canso in the service of the English garrison.  He was taken prisoner by Duvilliers in the spring of 1744 and brought to Quebec.  Irish and Scottish, certainly they were Catholics, were treated with great benevolence by the French authorities who put them at liberty.   John McCluer, one time returned to Quebec, worked for George Trevoux, arms manufacturer of the king.  In 1752, John McCluer built himself a house at the suburb "Saint-Roch."   In 1748, his wife, Janet Finn had to renounce Protestantism in the presence of Andre-Joseph-Mathurin Jacquereau, ols director of the seminary.  Under the French regime, when some English speakers had to give testimony, one of John McCluer's sons, Thomas, was often used to interpret in front of the courts.

Extras, as listed after the English translation.

Parchement-bank of data notaries

09 12 1766 (1750-1776) [9 December 1766]   Sale of a ground situated in the lordship of St Gabriel of the Vigil Lorette; by Jean-Baptiste Gagne, landlord and Helene Maclure, his wife, of the town of Quebec, district Saint Roch, to Michel Baudin, of the small river Saint Charles, the assent of Jean Gagne, grandfather of the aforesaid salesman, and Joseph Gagne, of the town of Quebec, his grandson.

20 03 1775 (1750-1776) [20 March 1775]   Sale of a site located downtown Quebec, street Saint Domenica in the district Saint Roch; by Andre Maclure, master at arms manufacturer and Marie-Anne Gauvrault, his wife, of the town of Quebec, district Roch, to Michel Penpalon, inhabitant and Madeleine Rouloy, her husband, of the town of Quebec, street St Roch.

21 04 1767 (1478-1771) [21 April 1767]   Engagement in the capacity of appentice blackmsith and arms manufacturer of Pierre Duval (16 years), by Eilizabeth Web, widow of Pierre Duval, carpenter, of the town of Quebec, his mother, to Andre Maclure, master blacksmith and armsmanufacturer, of the town of Quebec.

VITAL STATS for JOHN MACLURE and JEANNE FINN

JOHN MACLURE was born 1701 in Forestdale, Barnstable County, Massachusetts, and died December 24, 1775 in Quebec City, Quebec, Canada. He married JEANNE FINN 1730 in Forestdale, Barnstable, Massachusetts, daughert of JOHN FINN and ALIDA GARDENIER.

CHILDREN of JOHN MACLURE and JEANNE FINN

i.  Jeanne Marie Jeannette MACLURE, b 1745, Quebec City; d August 6, 1815

ii.  Johannes MACLURE, b September 5, 1731, Albany, Albany county, New York

iii.  Andre MACLURE, b February 25, 1732/33, Albany, Albany county, New York; m. Marie Anne GAUVREAU, October 25 1756, Qubec City, Quebec, Canada

iv.  Thomas MACLURE, b February 9 1733/34, Albany, Albany county, New York; d April 30, 1767, Sorel, Richelieu, Quebec, Canada

v.  Marguerite MACLURE, d December 26, 1736, Albany, Albany county, New York; m. Paul Lacroix, January 10, 1764, Quebec City, Quebec, Canada

vi.  Alida MACLURE, b. June 3, 1739, Albany, Albany county, New York

vii.  Jannetje MACLURE, b August 21, 1743, Albany, Albany county, New York

viii.  Helene MACLURE, b Abt. 1744, Quebec City, Quebec, Canada; m Jean Baptiste GAGNE, November 21, 1763, Quebec City, Quebec, Canada

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RAMBLINGS FROM THE EDITOR

I started my day on Tuesday September 11, 2001, with a phone call from a friend up in British Columbia, who simply said, "Turn on CBC."  I asked her what was up and her answer was a stark, "Turn on CBC."  I flicked the TV on to one of our local news stations; that I was stunned is a monumental understatement.

My thoughts then turned to family -- all of you good folks -- and as I was trying to get my brain functioning, I received another call from a local friend who was frantic because her cousin was supposed to be in lower Manhatten that very morning.  I fired off a hastily composed e-mail to you guys, then hopped in my car and headed to the friend's house with all speed and little caution.  The good news arrived via telephone about 4pm Pacific Coast Time; the cousin has decided -- the night before -- to stay in Albany rather than go with the tour group to Lower Manhatten.

I am still thinking of those of you who have had concerns about friends, and I sincerely hope that there has been resolution by now.  I am also a bit anxious about a couple of you, whom I haven't yet heard from, but I will remain hopeful that all is well with you.  I am also thinking good thoughts that our family members who are of an age to be active military will not need to go to war -- and if they must go, that they return home safe.

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NEWSLETTER INFORMATION

If you have family you want to share this with but they don't have a computer, please feel free to print it out and share it with them.  If you have family with a computer who you think might be interested in the newsletter, drop'em an e-mail and let'em know about it; feel free to pass along my e-mail address.    

If at anytime you wish to be change the way you receive the newsletter, drop me an e-mail at lisa@fortlangley.ca and tell me.

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COUSINS comes out once a month

This month's was finished 29 September 2001; 5:40pm PDST

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And now for that update . . .

On 29 Sept 2001 Libby writes:

This information is pulled from the very reliable PRDH.  [...]  You will find most interesting as to who the parents of Ignace are in the PRDH accounting of the family...[...]

(The [...] indicates good stuff that will be in a future newletter.)

Data follows from http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca

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IGNACE  CARON
   Père: CLAUDE  CARON
   Mère: MARIE MADELEINE  PEPIN LACHANCE

Naissance: 1730-12-09 Ste-Anne-de-Beaupré    

Premier mariage: 1754-10-27
Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) avec

MARIE JOSEPHE  GIGUERE
   Père: CHRETIEN BON JEAN GIGUERE
   Mère: MARIE DOROTHEE RACINE DESNOYERS

end 74862  (Individual, Ignace Caron)

Ignace CARON
   Father: Claude CARON
   Mother: Marie-Madeleine PEPIN dit LACHANCE

Ignace was born: 9 December 1730 in St. Anne de Beaupré

First Marriage: 27 October 1754, somewhere in Québec, with

Marie-Josephe GIGUERE
   Father: Chretien-Bon-Jean GIGUERE
   Mother: Marie-Dorothée Racine dit DESNOYERS

www.genealogie.umontreal file number 74862 for Igance Caron

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I do indeed find it interesting; yet another crossing of Pepin lines. Thank you, Libby!

 


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